On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 03:28 AM, Bob R. Kenyon wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions, guys....
>
> At 19:49 +0200 2001/8/15, Marco Mailand wrote:
>> At 13:17 -0400 2001/8/15, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
>> I have TCP/IP
>> enabled at home in all macs in the Network and basically the same
>> configuration as Bob R. Kenyon has.
>
> And it works, right?
It's working for me at home with an AsanteTalk router.
>
>>> one for your Newton? I'm not sure I understand when you say "when it's
>>> hooked up through the serial port".
>> Bob, you must check your Prefs and set them to AppleTalk->LocalTalk.
>
> Check.
>
>> And be
>> shure that you use the right cable. The best is of course to use the
>> original Mini8 cable. With a DB9 cable you have a fair chance to
>> create a
>> crossed connection when you needed a straight one.
>
> I'm using a PhoneNet connector directly into the dongle and thence
> into the Newt. That should work to make a network connection, right?
Yes, that should work
>
>>> ...get on a LocalTalk network that has multiple
>>> devices on it.
>> And be shure to terminate the last PhoneNet boxes at the ends of the
>> chain
>> with that small termination resistor, crimped into a RJ12 connector.
>
> Check. The ancient basics of PhoneNet.
>
>>> If all else fails, you could always setup a one-to-one LocalTalk
>>> connection between your LaserWriter and your Newton. You will need a
>>> real serial cable to do that.
>> I tried this with a direct connection from Newton to an elder iPrint
>> adapter
>> and it did not work at all. I had to use two AT adapter boxes and one
>> AT
>> cable. More recent iPrint adapters have RJ12 (PhoneNet) connectors
>> only and
>> the AT box built-in.
>
> I probably should have been more clear about what I wanted to do.
> Getting to the printer isn't nearly as important as getting back into
> the Ethernet network to do backups with one of my Macs. I'd rather
> make this work then try to do serial port stuff with these later
> systems that don't seem to support the old Comm Toolbox.
OK, I see. First, don't forget that we're talking about LocalTalk,
that's not serial, even though it's pretty close. That being said, with
the setup you have described, it should work. I was using the printer as
an example because your Newton should see that printer without you
having to install anything on it. If you can't see the printer, then
there is already something wrong and you most certainly won't be able to
access any Macintosh. So, if you want to troubleshoot that problem,
first thing first ;-)
Make sure that you can see the printer from your Newton when you try to
print.
If you can't see the printer with your current network, disconnect the
iPrint box, turn off all your LocalTalk devices and turn on only the
printer. Try to reach the printer again.
If that doesn't work, try to make disconnect all devices, turn off
everything, then plug back the printer and your Newton. Turn them on and
see if you can reach the printer from your Newton.
If that still doesn't work, then there is most likely a hardware
problem. Try connecting your printer with your Newton with different
PhoneNet connectors, replace the cable between the connectors and try
again.
What happens?
-Laurent.
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