Re: [NTLK] Airport on Newton

From: Jim Richter (paparichter_at_yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Jan 21 2002 - 14:46:55 EST


>
> Jim, I have tried it again, and again I have failed.
> I think I need exact information regarding the settings within the
> Newton.
> Where do I tell the Newton about the IP, subnet etc.?
> Do I have to tell it the iBook's AirPort ID? (The iBook knows the Lucent
> Card's ID)
> I just found something within the Newtons "Internet" settings that
> allowed
> me to enter such information, but I don't want internet, I want to
> dock...
>
> Is there anything else I have t do on the iBook apart from aktivating
> the
> computer to computer network?
>
> I run AP1.3.1, but have 1.2 available. I just don't think it's a good
> idea
> to downgrade my system before I know what to set where.
>
> Oliver :)

Actually it's just must simpler than I thought it was.

1) Install the Lucent WaveLan driver
2) Put your PCMCIA card in your Newton.
3) A dialog box pops up on the Newton identifying the WaveLan Pc Card.
Check the AppleTalk box in the left hand corner.
4) Go to Internet Setup and create a new Generic set up. Name it
Wireless or something like that.
5) In the setup, choose a manual configuration (vs. DHCP)
6) Hit continue, for the page with all the TCP/IP stuff, just leave it
blank. You're going to be connecting via AppleTalk.
7) Open up NCU. Under preferences, choose AppleTalk connection.
8) Make sure Appletalk is turned on on your Mac. Under the AppleTalk
control panel, make sure AppleTalk is set to Airport. Open up TCP/IP
control panel and make sure it's set to Airport. Make sure File Sharing
is turned on.
9) Open up the Airport utility. Under Network choice, choose computer
to computer.
10) Open up the Dock app on the Newton. Choose connect by AppleTalk.
Where it gives the name of the computer, click on it and choose "other
computer" so it can look for your AppleTalk engaged computer. Your
Mac's name should pop up. Select that name and hit connect. You should
get a firm connection with AppleTalk.

Several things I've found:

1) I haven't figured out how to make a TCP/IP connection with the
WaveLan card. The driver's website says that the driver has worked to
create both AppleTalk and TCP/IP connections. I can do the former, but
not the latter.

2) I can always connect via AppleTalk while booted in OS 9.2. Can't do
it at all in OSX.1. It seems that I would have to make a wireless
connection within Classic. I'm not a networking guy and someone else
can definitely correct/educate me, but the Newton needs an desktop
application running which will be monitoring for some connection by the
Newton. In NCU you can check either serial or AppleTalk. For our
Ethernet connections, we choose AppleTalk. Well, the way Classic runs
in OSX.1, it recognizes ethernet connections via the built in ethernet
port, but it doesn't recognize connections via Airport. Under OS 9.2,
if you have Airport installed, Airport is an option in the AppleTalk
control panel. The option is not available if you access that some
control panel when running classic within OSX.1. It would seem if we
had a carbonized/cocoa-created OSX application listening for that Newton
connection, we'd be able to connect wirelessly. But we can't do it
through OSX.1 to get connect with NCU. Our Ethernet connections in
OSX.1 with NCU are apparently through classic, not OSX.1.

3) I have also been able to connect via AppleTalk with Thomas
Templemann's RealBasic-created Newton DIL Tester, which was a cool
application which besides installing packages, also allowed you to
peruse your soups, enter NewtonScripts etc. This application does run
in Classic and you can connect via ethernet. Under OS 9.2, you can also
connect wirelessly through Airport.

Of note is Templemann's implementation of connecting via TCP/IP. I
haven't been able to get the Newton to connect wirelessly through TCP/IP.

Templemann provides the RealBasic source file for download. I toy
around with RealBasic, but I'm no programmer. Couldn't someone with a
little no how, take his source file (which he has made available for
free providing that whoever improves the file distributes the app for
free) and carbonize it? In RealBasic, carbonizing an App for OSX usage
is as simple as clicking the "OSX/Carbon" toggle. I tried doing this,
but I get an error where it doesn't recognize one of the objects he
created. Maybe another can download it and work with it a little. We
could possibly have a carbonized app to let us connect natively in OSX.
The URL is: http://www.tempel.org/newton/

4) You can't do large (2MB or more) wireless transfers. Yesterday my
connection peetered out when trying to backup a 32Meg card. I did some
looking on the net, and apparently 2Megs is the limit. I think I read
this in regards to Infra-red transfer. Could be wrong.

Otherwise it's a solid stable connection in OS 9.2. I'm using Airport
1.2 (though version shouldn't matter as long as it's a computer to
computer network while booted in OS9.2).

Sorry for being longwinded. Just trying to answer some of the questions
posed. Kinda of difficult when you're more of a designer, than a
computer programmer/IT/technician type guy.

Jim R.

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