Re: [NTLK] [OT] Conjure (was no inewton)

Chilton,
Actually I don't think conjure is very off topic for this list (poutine anyone?) especially considering its inspired by the Newton OS and tries to emulate some of its ideas and usability. I also wouldn't say your spamming the list as I clearly started the thread and asked the questions, and as far as I know we've never met/talked before so there's no conspiracy between us to spam the list either LOL. I actually remember reading/hearing about conjure a long while ago when I was still using 10.3 (I usually run 1 to 2 versions behind in os's lol) and I never knew its author was/is on the list, small world :)

I'm guessing the obj C 2.0 features you are referring to are fast iteration and dot syntax (for properties)? I've been going through (auditing) the Stanford iPhone programming course and those are the two new things in 2.0 that stand out to me. The last time I tried obj c/cocoa was in 10.2 with Project builder & IB before "core" anything features so some things have changed a bunch. I can honestly say I'm feeling comfortable with obj c and apples frameworks finally despite all the changes (I never felt comfortable with either on my first try with mac programming).

Is there anyway to get conjure 2.4 still? Just like other folks with their pismos I still use (and love) my late 2001 ibook G3 daily and would like to run conjure on that since I find it provides a happy medium between OSX and OS9. I have a couple 10.5 machines, PM G4 & hackintosh netbook, but both are single purpose machines (graphics/video and programming respectively) and in the case of the netbook it took a miracle to shoe horn 10.5 & iphone dev tools into the 16gb available (8gb SSD + 8gb SD card). Thanks

Joe Reilly

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Chilton Webb <chilton@mac.com>

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:15:24
To: <newtontalk@newtontalk.net>
Subject: Re: [NTLK] [OT] Conjure (was no inewton)

Hi L.W. !

You have a good memory! I haven't touched v2.4 in awhile, and it lacks
most of the newer features. But yes, I do still have that one, and it
works in 10.4.

The 2.x codebase is what I went back to, for Conjure 4. I do intend on
revisiting this issue soon, and making C4 backwards compatible with at
least 10.4. The CoreAnimation stuff is being neatly tucked into its
own portion of the code, and the Objective-C 2.0 additions didn't buy
me anything other than a few lines of semi-automated code that I could
have just done by hand.

Since Conjure has a fairly strong following among teachers, and many
schools are still using Tiger, I think I could justify this financially.

One of the main motivators for bringing Conjure to the point it's at
today, was to make my MacBook into more of a PIM. But I felt that the
concept of PIM was really too limited for what I thought I could
actually do with Conjure. I wanted something closer to the Newton OS,
but for the 'normal' Mac OS X desktop.

I know this is really off-topic for this list, so I'll go shut up
after this email. Write me off-list if you'd like, as I'm really not
trying to SPAM the Newton list with my gibberish.

Thanks!
-Chilton

On Sep 12, 2009, at 6:48 PM, L.W. Brown wrote:

> Don't you have earlier versions that could work under 10.4 or earlier?
> (I've forgotten when v.1 came out...)
>
> On 12. Sep., 2009, at 18:57 PM, Chilton Webb wrote:
>
>> But for now, it's 10.5 and later.
>
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